Transformative Practices for Authentic Living

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I'd love to help you get vulnerable.

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Let's get naked.

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Welcome to the let's Get Naked podcast.

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Today, I'm getting naked with Perry Chase Perry is a teacher of feminine spirituality and energetic law.

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She teaches a pussy stroking meditation called SXBMB as part of a larger framework called the Pussy Map.

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Welcome, perry.

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I appreciate you joining me today.

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Thank you for having me Absolutely.

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So I'd like to start by you just maybe giving me a 30,000 foot view of who you are and you know.

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Then we can kind of dive into individual pieces of that.

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But maybe just anything about you know over the course of your life or your business career or kind of how you got to where you are today, just like I said, the 30,000 foot view, and then we'll dive in from there.

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Yeah, okay, just nice and specific.

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Yeah, no, no, actually it's a good question.

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Interestingly enough for the name of the podcast, I would say that I am where I am today through the process of continuously getting naked, nice, nice, and it fits Like I feel, and not and maybe a little bit in the literal sense, but like really from a.

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I feel like and not and maybe a little bit in the literal sense, but like really from a.

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I feel like the path of awakening and spirituality and all of that that I'm part of is or that I live, right, it's my whole life, is the constant, allowing yourself to be like disrobed by the universe allowing yourself to be like disrobed by the universe.

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You know where we're, layer by layer, and, like you know, you think you're one thing and then whoops, no, you're not.

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And then you know, just like, everything just keeps coming off.

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Yeah, and so I, if I had to, to sum up, 30,000 foot view.

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It's just more of you know, the, the becoming more of who you are through the unbecoming.

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Yeah, yeah, how.

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When did that start for you?

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Like, when do you?

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Was there a pivotal moment where you feel like, um, you were really ready to dive into the work that you do, the unbecoming, the onion peeling back Like when, when was that for you?

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So it's?

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It's interesting that you talk about ready, because I don't think.

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I don't think we're ever really I don't think we're ever really ready.

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I think what's happened is it's become more popular, like it's become like a uh, uh, like a socially, culturally popular thing, because there is really a mass awakening going on.

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I would say there.

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There've been a couple of points in my life where there have been those different awakenings, but the big one that really changed everything was in 2008,.

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I was living in Hong Kong.

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I was a headhunter on Wall Street like, so, financial services.

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I had moved out to Hong Kong to co-run the companies that I worked for as office in Hong Kong Huge opportunity.

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At my age I was kind of being groomed to be a partner of the firm.

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You know I was making over a million dollars a year.

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Like I was, I was crushing it, yeah, and what was interesting was, you know, I think that a lot of times and I'm just going to kind of drive around a little bit to like bring you back.

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I think that a lot of times what happens I think this especially to women is that, like we're given this goal of you know, when you get there, you know, just keep, just keep working, keep working.

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You know, like, just keep doing that thing, you'll get there.

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Someday you'll break that glass ceiling.

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Well, I was like I'm, I was like a bull in a china shop and I was like I'm gonna break that fucking ceiling yeah right now.

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Yeah, but the thing is I did it so fast that I was like this, is it like this?

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This is where the fuck is my happiness.

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Yeah, like you told me, yeah, that if I did x, y and z that I would have it, and I didn't.

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Yeah, you know, and I remember I used to go to Bali a lot.

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When I was living in Hong Kong, my boss who sent me out there had a house there so he let me go use the house.

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And I remember I remember doing a conference call on the beach in Bali and saying, wow, like people would kill for this life that I have and I'm miserable.

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And not so long after that, like I was, I actually went on a vacation to Bali by myself.

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I had started doing yoga.

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Um, because I was like by myself, I had started doing yoga because I was like something has to change.

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Like you know, headhunting, my God, it's like.

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It's just like you know you work all day and then you're drinking at night and you're out with people.

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I'm like this lifestyle just isn't work, like I've got to change something.

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And so, you know, it started with yoga.

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And I think I read the secret.

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This is I'm just telling you like I wasn't like a spiritual seeker, yeah right, like I really had no basis for spirituality.

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I did not grow up religious like any of that, and so, um, I was in Bali.

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I had also been reading Eat, pray, love.

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So, I had this moment of like.

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Maybe I should go look for Katoot.

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Like you know, the little mystic man in the mountains.

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Yes, and I just kind of, you know, I was trying to like find something, and what happened when I moved to Hong Kong too, was that life became Groundhog's Day.

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Like it was like I was in this repetitive cycle loop, Like it just felt like I was like one day became the next and I was like is this?

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it.

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Yeah, that's the rinse lather.

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Repeat that I refer to Because it is just.

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It's like you get to a point of is this it, is this everything?

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Is this as good as it?

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gets.

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So I don't know how this happened, but in that time I had this magnet on my refrigerator and it said just when the caterpillar thought the world was over, it became a butterfly.

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And I swear to God, it was like an Easter egg in the game, you know, like it just was like there and I just always like, like tuned into this magnet, and it was, it was like some future version of myself, yeah, and put it there or something.

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Um, but anyway, I'm back in Bali on a vacation and, uh, I made a choice to either go to yoga or go for a cocktail and I chose the cocktail and I ended up at the bar watching sunset and there were a couple of girls who had been there from Canada and we started talking and they were like oh, I wonder if you know my yoga teacher, or my friend?

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You know, he was my partner.

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We owned a yoga studio together.

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He lives in Hong Kong.

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I'm like I'm sure we don't.

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And she said my yoga teacher.

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And so, all of a sudden, I'm like what I'm like, what I'm like I can't believe that's so random, really random.

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Um, I thought they were there for a yoga retreat, but they weren't.

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They were on.

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They were there for like a true, a spiritual retreat, which, again, I didn't know what this was.

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Anyway, they're like you have to come meet this guy.

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So ultimately, this was like an enlightened master, um, incredible teacher.

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Uh, the first thing he says to me was he said he looks at me, he's like wearing all white he's, but he's like wearing jeans, you know, like like white jeans and you know a tunic, and he's like smoking a cigarette.

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And he just kind of like looks at me and he's like he's like you know what your problem is.

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He's like you manifest everything you don't want.

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And I was like, yeah, that sounds about right.

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That sounds about right.

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I mean, I was really able to manifest all of these things, but did I want?

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them.

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Right.

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So they convinced me to spend this week.

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You know, I'm in Bali.

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I'm like all I want to do is be at the beach.

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And they're like, come and sit with him and all of this stuff.

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And I was like, oh, I'm like can I do this workbook by the pool?

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like I thought it the whole thing they're like you don't understand where you are.

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They're like you don't understand the opportunity that this is, or who he is, or like what you've been given here and I would, and he was like you're meant to be here, so they just invited me into this retreat.

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It was never happened before.

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It was so weird.

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Yeah, so I'm doing this like workbook of, like unwinding things, and I get to this place where I just saw that literally like everything that I had built was like for the approval of like my dad or my boss or you know, just just like you know, am I, am I the good girl?

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Am I doing it right?

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Am I kicking ass?

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Am I you know?

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Am I the best you know?

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And then it was like the house of cards, like what.

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The one card came out and I could see it all and I'm'm the kind of person who like, once something like that happens, there's no going back.

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Yes, you can't unsee that.

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So I left Bali on a Sunday.

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I called my boss in New York on a Monday and I was like I'm done, and he was like done with what?

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And I was like I'm done with headhunting, and he, he just couldn't believe me.

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He was like done with what?

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And I was like I'm done with headhunting.

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And he, he just couldn't believe me.

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He was like what do you mean?

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He's like take a sabbatical.

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The market's shit, this is 2008, sure.

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And he's like take a sabbatical.

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And I was like you know, I'm just done.

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And so I gave him like a month and, you know, tried to give as much of my intellectual property as possible to them.

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And you know, but I I was, I was like I need to go.

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So I had money in the bank, thank God.

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But you know, I basically spent the next two years completely coming undone, like in the dark, alone.

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Like you know, I spent some time in Thailand scuba diving to try and like make sure I wasn't like at the bar every night.

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You know, I had to get up in the morning and like do something, um, but it was dark time.

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Yeah, like there there were periods of it and I like had this relationship with money back then too, where I associated my success and my wealth with like being unhappy.

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So I like pissed my money away and like in this, like I pushed it away like defiant kind of yeah, yeah like, like, I don't care.

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I'm just gonna spend it, yeah.

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And so by the time I got, like you know, 2010, um, and I was ready to go home, I had like my Rolex.

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That was like my last thing and I was like I was like, okay, I had like my Rolex, that was like my last thing and I was like, okay, I can always sell my Rolex to get home, yeah, but I like managed to kind of make a little bit of money, but I spent two years not working, yeah, you know, and I really lost my identity because I didn't know who I was without my job.

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You know, I just didn't know, yeah, you know, I just I just didn't know, yeah, and and so it was.

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It was a really like it's the kind of undoing that like I take people through now that I would never recommend that people go through alone.

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You know, like it's just dark and you forget where you are.

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Well, it's like the wool was pulled off of your eyes so that you can actually understand what you we were dealt.

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I think a lot of times is like okay, if you get this amazing job, you're going to be happy.

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Or for some people, it's if you get married and you're 2.4 kids, you're going to be happy.

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Or you know, I also measured success by money.

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That was my previous you know my previous but when you, when you really put so much emphasis on that, that's the measure of success, I think that that's not healthy either, you know.

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So when you get to these things that we were kind of programmed with out of the box is how I feel about it.

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And you're not happy, it's like what the fuck?

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Because I've done all of the things right, you're crushing it, like you said.

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I'm at this place where I've done it.

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I've broken the ceiling 've you know?

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I've done all of the things and I was so and I'm miserable, exactly right.

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So I I find that to be very similar, in that I got to this place where I had all of these successes right, I drove the fancy car, I had this beautiful house, like all of the things, and I'm like I've never been more miserable because I was just doing the you know, the rinse, lather, repeat bullshit.

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I think this is a really big story for so many people.

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Um, but you know, our culture doesn't like, I don't know that if I had been in New York, if I could have done it, if I could have pulled the trigger, because the culture that we live in is so about productivity and functionality which is, you know, in my teachings, like those are masculine qualities, necessarily about male, female.

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Sure, this is just about, like the energetics of masculine and feminine, and we really value that.

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Productive logic, data oriented, um, you know, structured, linear, task checking, you know, and, and we don't value, and you can just see it in society, like we don't value the creative the same way, Right, and so it it diminishes and minimizes that.

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And so I don't know that I could have ever, like I needed to be that far out, because I'm a very experiential, I'm very experiential learner, but I'm also now as a teacher, because, like I mean, who, obviously, you know, I believe that our souls kind of have a plan of, like what we're supposed to be doing in our life, and the more we surrender to that, it unfolds.

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But that preparation to actually be able to take people through like what I call the gate of surrender, which is like you know where you, you don't know how you're going to figure it out and you have to let go of the trapeze and trust, and so that was important for me to have gone through that, because you really can't take people places that you have not been.

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Right, well, and being willing to surrender is crazy, crazy.

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Like there's no way to explain that to someone that hasn't no, no, and because they think they well, I try.

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Often they're always like what do I do, perry, and I'm like, well, it's, it's actually the not doing and it's it's, it's a, it's an opening, right, and so I it.

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Really.

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A lot of people don't surrender until they have like a lot of compression right, like like something where they they feel like there's no wiggle room and they don't have a choice.

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And that is why so many people attract, you know, big, catastrophic things in their lives, because it's like you know, it's like you're not going to pay attention unless unless it's like that significant.

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Yeah, Well, and I think the universe keeps telling you the lessons that you need to learn, and it just keeps knocking louder if you're not listening.

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Right, and so that's why it's like, when it actually does, it's a big catastrophic thing, because it's like no, seriously, I tried to point it out to you here and here and here and here, and it just got a little bit louder, a little bit louder, a little bit louder, until you actually open your eyes, well, and this is and this is one of the things that I teach people is how to listen at the at the level of the whisper, yeah, so that it doesn't have to be.

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you know it's like, okay, well, maybe if you don't get the whisper, you get the tap on the shoulder as opposed to the brick through the window as opposed to the Mack truck Right.

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Like and it's, and that's exactly how it happens, and you can't avoid those lessons because they're part of your karmic contract.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I absolutely love it.

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I love being on this adventure of surrender.

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I surrendered a couple years ago like fully surrendered, where just I'm used me for my highest good yeah right and like really wake up in the morning and put me where I'm supposed to be today and then I just follow my gut and my knowing.

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Yeah, it's gotten me into a lot of weird things that I never thought I would get into, but it's like, but that's what I'm supposed to be doing.

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And weird things that I never thought I would get into, but it's like, but that's what I'm supposed to be doing.

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And I know that I see the impact that I'm making with people and it's like that's that's huge to me, that's everything to me.

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And it's moving outside of your preferences and moving from like I don't know why I'm doing this, but but I'm, I'm.

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I'm going to say yes.

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I'm going to, I'm going to listen and this is like wildly uncomfortable for me, but okay, like you know, whatever it is, lean into the discomfort for stuff.

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Have you ever read Michael Singer's the Untethered Soul?

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Love that book.

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I actually give a lot of people that book I do the same right.

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So that's my Bible.

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My yoga mat is my church, you know.

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So for me, I was raised religious and so it turned me off completely, because I thought religion and spirituality were the same things and so I always thought organized religion was such a crock of shit.

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Still do right.

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That just never resonated with me.

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And to whoever it does.

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Excellent for you.

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I think it's like just going to yoga class doesn't mean that somebody's living a yogic life.

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Yes, it's the same thing with religion.

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A hundred percent, a hundred percent.

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So to whoever uses that, that's excellent.

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For me, it did not like to every fiber of my being.

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It felt like the wrong thing, but it pushed me away from spirituality because I really thought when I was younger that those went hand in hand, instead of really understanding.

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So it was about, I know, so you know, it was about, uh, I think, 2016 for me, where I was like I was done with the rinse, lather, repeat, you know, and I just I think it's very interesting and then, a couple of years ago, really understanding the full surrender of just whatever the universe has in store for you.

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It's not about me.

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You know, I went and did an ayahuasca retreat and really fixed the whole ego situation that I ever had going on.

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Oh, it's crazy, right, blows your mind, and so I just I find that to be completely fascinating and then just to be on this path of surrender, so okay, so you're in, you're done with that, you get, and then you come back to the States, I'm assuming.

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I came back to the States.

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I went back to work for a little while because I needed money.

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And it was the fastest kind of path back.

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I had no idea what I was going to do.

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But, it was also very interesting to kind of go back as, like, a non-competitive person.

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Sure sure.

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I'm just here for a paycheck Changes your perspective, but what happened at the time, though, too, is that I was really like my ethics and like what am I representing in doing this work on wall street?

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And I, you know, I I mean I had been part of like just to give you a little insight into this.

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I mean I used to recruit people who were doing like credit, derivative trading and structured credit products.

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I mean basically the people who blew up the world, you know, and like I mean we're.

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You know I did millions of dollars and and salaries and contracts and and and fees and all kinds of things, and, um, you know, there was a little bit of you know these kinds of things, but I, when I came back, I started working.

00:19:22.280 --> 00:19:40.608
Uh, one of my clients was MF Global, and I had just finished working on a deal moving a woman from Singapore to New York and, interestingly enough, on a Friday, my dad was like Perry, you know, he was a trader, and he was like you know, perry, I think MF Global is about to go under.

00:19:40.689 --> 00:19:41.710
And I was like get out of here.

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I'm like, dad, I'm working with the top two guys in the firm.

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I'm like, of course, I'm like I don't think so.

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Sunday night they were calling me saying you need to get us out of here, and so I was like fuck yeah.

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And I was like I can't do this anymore.

00:19:57.306 --> 00:19:59.637
I just like I can't, I just can't do this.

00:19:59.637 --> 00:20:04.480
Like there's banks are going under, like you know, like I just moved this woman from Singapore.

00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:05.041
Now what?

00:20:05.041 --> 00:20:06.296
Yeah, you know and.

00:20:06.296 --> 00:20:07.923
I just didn't want to do it anymore so.

00:20:08.224 --> 00:20:24.663
I was still figuring it out, but it was interesting because when I was not working, you know, in these two years of doing nothing, uh, there were times when I would actually just go learn new skills, like I would sit at Starbucks and learn new skills, and so one of the things that I learned was Twitter.

00:20:24.663 --> 00:20:26.636
Like I was like what is this Twitter thing?

00:20:26.636 --> 00:20:28.701
Like 2008, nine right, sure.

00:20:28.701 --> 00:20:54.505
So I, I I started on Twitter and and it was really kind of pivotal for me because I ended up meeting a lot of people in like the social media space very early, and then I started playing with all these Twitter apps and then I started beta testing Twitter apps for tech companies and anyway, I got kind of connected with a lot of people and and Twitter back then was amazing.

00:20:54.505 --> 00:21:00.799
Yeah, like I actually have real world friends that I met on Twitter way back then.

00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:03.263
It's not what it is.

00:21:03.463 --> 00:21:05.587
Right, yeah, things have changed.

00:21:05.587 --> 00:21:07.056
The cesspool that all of it is today.

00:21:07.076 --> 00:21:11.306
Yeah, but I, um, I know back then you could really connect.

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So when I went back to New York, I actually got kind of hooked up into this tech scene because I knew these people.

00:21:20.910 --> 00:21:39.583
So I started going to like some of these meetups or parties and things like that and, uh, I started connecting like startups, with wall street people and I was like, yeah, I'm like you know, I know people like you want to look for some angel money and things like that and I would sit in on some of these pitches and I would be like I could do this.

00:21:39.583 --> 00:21:47.836
Like you know, this is not interesting.

00:21:47.836 --> 00:21:48.980
I was just sitting there being judgy Um and but it was.

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It was like you know, this is not interesting.

00:21:50.304 --> 00:21:51.508
I was just sitting there being judgy Um and, but it was.

00:21:51.508 --> 00:21:52.711
It was like okay, like let me let me back into this.

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And then I, you know, I had an idea and then I ended up meeting this kid who was like the son of a billionaire and uh, he had, like he was working on like a number of different ideas and we had lunch and I was like, yeah, I have this idea and he's like I like that, you know, and then we kind of he was experimenting with it.

00:22:15.945 --> 00:22:25.387
We kind of experimented with it with a couple of other people that were on his team, and we ended up founding a company called Unroll me.

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Have you?

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Have you heard?

00:22:27.094 --> 00:22:33.385
of it it's an email unsubscribe engine oh, okay so, okay, yeah, excellent, yeah.

00:22:33.465 --> 00:22:56.627
So we ended up, we ended up founding this and and I did I didn't end up really working for the company ultimately, but like I helped them kind of you, you know, design the idea and then, you know, they did a lot of the execution and then I did the marketing strategy to kind of kick it off and launch it and I created like, basically like a viral hook in the product, whatever.

00:22:56.627 --> 00:23:06.174
It's not really important, but it was, it was, it was great and it went and you know, we had our first million users and it was got press and you know.

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And then I went on to start another company.

00:23:07.878 --> 00:23:14.582
Uh, that did not go well, um, but you know that one ended up selling and it was fun.

00:23:14.582 --> 00:23:21.767
Yeah, that's awesome, yeah, so, but it took me out to California and Silicon Valley and and there was a whole other chapter out there.

00:23:26.714 --> 00:23:26.895
I love it.

00:23:26.895 --> 00:23:27.538
Okay, so you do, you do that.

00:23:27.538 --> 00:23:31.717
And then how do you get, how do you transition from that into what you're doing now, and when did that happen and how did that spark for you?

00:23:31.857 --> 00:23:47.638
Yeah, well, so when I was out there in San Francisco you know this woman I think we were out for my birthday and this other tech founder that I know I won't name her, um but um, but she was like Perry, do you want to go to this pussy stroking class?

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And I was like I'm sorry, what, like, like, what, like what, what are you talking about?

00:23:53.056 --> 00:23:56.368
Right, and I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't believe it.

00:23:56.368 --> 00:23:57.733
I was like how does this exist?

00:23:57.733 --> 00:23:58.375
Like, how is this?

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I'm like, wait, what's happening at this class?

00:24:01.082 --> 00:24:02.806
Uh, but anyway, it was.

00:24:02.806 --> 00:24:08.698
It was a class, for it was an intro to orgasmic meditation which people may or may not heard of.

00:24:09.078 --> 00:24:19.727
Um, there was a really salacious uh, mostly false Netflix uh documentary about, uh, about this company.

00:24:19.887 --> 00:24:30.796
Okay, um, I'm not going to get into the details of it but, I'll just say that, like you know, I was around for a really long time and I never saw anything that was untoward, illegal, okay, yeah, you know what I mean.

00:24:30.796 --> 00:24:49.873
And so there's a lot of ways that things were painted in, um, very Netflix style way, right, right, so, anyway, so these people people you know have their, have their opinions about that, but that practice changed my life in a really deep way because I had done this awakening work.

00:24:49.873 --> 00:25:07.255
The thing about this is what happens to a lot of people with spiritual work is that, um, the ego loves to know what to do and to how to change behavior, and it loves to know ideas and have all this like mental understanding.

00:25:07.255 --> 00:25:18.637
But it's still the ego and the thing that I have found is that, like, unless you really transform something deep in the body, it's not real transformation.

00:25:18.637 --> 00:25:59.714
Agreed, and so the practice really, like it helped me start to embed and apply a lot of the spiritual teachings that I had learned, but it also helped me understand, like, my nature, right, so, like I actually have a wildly feminine nature, like not feminine in the sense that society thinks right, because feminine in society, like people like to think, is femininity right, but if you actually look at like people that they think are very feminine.

00:25:59.714 --> 00:26:02.479
It's very rigid and controlled.

00:26:02.479 --> 00:26:03.980
That's actually quite masculine.

00:26:03.980 --> 00:26:26.144
Yes, so it has the appearance of feminine, it has the appearance of femininity, which is an affectation that is acquired through an enormous amount of control and rigidity, and like behavior modification, because we like a certain kind of feminine right.

00:26:26.203 --> 00:27:14.943
Feminine to me is like raw, chaotic energy, raw power, yeah, and it can be used for destruction or creation, but it's like, it's like a whirlwind, it's like a tornado, it's like a volcano, it's like you know, and and I always had that energy and so but when you work in places especially I worked in these male-dominated industries like you got to tighten that shit up, so in a way, it was like destroying me, because it was like, okay, like my nature and this goes back to the whole demonization of the feminine and like you can go to all the religions about this right, and it's like, okay, well, my nature must be bad because, like, I'm supposed to be like that and I'm like this Right, and this is the messaging that so many women get.

00:27:15.576 --> 00:27:33.219
But I walked into this world and all of a sudden, people were like you've got the goods and I was like what I'm like this thing that you got, like I was like what I'm like this thing that you got, like I'm like this is the thing that nobody wants right this thing that I've been trying to like yes, close down and that's too much for everybody.

00:27:33.259 --> 00:27:33.680
That's like.

00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.835
You know, I'm too big, I'm too loud and too, you know, I'm too expressive.

00:27:37.835 --> 00:27:43.001
I'm too, whatever and um, and they were like this is no.

00:27:43.001 --> 00:27:51.279
They were like we love this, and it was really the first time in my life that I felt like oh okay, and how old were you at that time?

00:27:51.758 --> 00:27:53.075
It's just so that I can get a frame of reference.

00:27:53.075 --> 00:27:58.186
32 or three, that's excellent, I mean 2012.

00:27:58.186 --> 00:28:00.862
Okay, I got to do the math.

00:28:00.862 --> 00:28:03.548
Yeah, early 30s I'm 46.

00:28:03.568 --> 00:28:04.575
Early 30s, I'm 46.

00:28:04.575 --> 00:28:05.076
Okay, do the math.

00:28:05.076 --> 00:28:07.353
Yeah, early, early 30s, I'm 46, okay, and I've never, I've never done anything to my.

00:28:07.353 --> 00:28:10.580
I love it, um, but it was, it was, it was really.

00:28:10.580 --> 00:28:17.157
It was really life-changing for me and, you know, it kind of helped continue and I was still broke.

00:28:17.157 --> 00:28:51.653
I was a founder, yeah right, but I was like just finding my way and I and I was doing this practice, I was part of this community and, um, I, I, you know, I, I was, I was just like I don't know, I was just in it, yeah Right, I was running this startup and I was, I was trying to, to do that and, you know, eventually I I let that go too, like there was just, there were just things that I just couldn't I, I I don't think I could have um done it any better at the time.

00:28:51.653 --> 00:28:56.946
Like, when I look back, I'm like, oh, wow, you know, these are all the ways that I I missed it.

00:28:57.214 --> 00:28:57.414
Right.

00:28:57.434 --> 00:28:57.595
Like.

00:28:57.595 --> 00:29:00.636
These are the things that were in the way of that being successful.

00:29:00.636 --> 00:29:32.462
Um, but it was a very good learning lesson and one of the most important things about that was actually being a non-technical founder having to speak to engineers, because it was a very important skill that I needed to be able to do the vision, or a felt sense in a language that could be heard in the masculine world, like it almost feels like to me.

00:29:32.482 --> 00:29:40.846
There's two worlds right, there's like this masculine world and then there's like the feminine world, and they, they don't speak very well.

00:29:40.846 --> 00:29:49.159
Yeah, you know, and you, and I believe it's actually women's responsibility to translate.

00:29:49.159 --> 00:29:55.719
That felt sense and it's one of the skills that I think that has not been passed down.

00:29:56.059 --> 00:30:04.463
Yeah, it's like something that needs to be passed down, agreed, and so I have a lot of like what I would call like very ancient codes.

00:30:04.565 --> 00:30:33.138
You know, like there's just like things that I am here to do or bring back, or I don't know how to explain it other than that but like there's a there's a translation that's emerging in the world right now, among you know, the women that are here to bring this, and it's um, it's kind of receding consciousness with things that have been lost for a very long time, and so this was important.

00:30:33.138 --> 00:30:38.603
Right to be able to speak both languages, yeah, and it was an important skill.

00:30:38.603 --> 00:31:06.140
And then, in 2015, I met my husband in this community, and then we moved to Arizona in 2016, got married, had a baby, and so I you know I was at that time I was, I well, the transition was startup wasn't working, I was doing consulting.

00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:19.414
And then what it felt like was and this happens on the journey it felt like all the back doors that I had just felt like they were closing, like the universe was like I don't want you doing recruitment consulting anymore.

00:31:19.434 --> 00:31:20.661
Right, you don't have any more plan B's.

00:31:20.661 --> 00:31:24.082
You don't have any more plan B's Like this company that was about to hire you.

00:31:24.142 --> 00:31:25.064
Didn't get their funding.

00:31:25.144 --> 00:31:26.567
Like it was just like random shit.

00:31:26.567 --> 00:31:27.288
You know what I mean.

00:31:30.538 --> 00:31:43.714
And at that time, I had about one month rent or like you know expenses, and my now husband said to me he was like why don't you build a digital course?

00:31:43.714 --> 00:31:48.950
Because I also before him, I really had a problem with relationships.

00:31:48.950 --> 00:31:50.515
Like I was a love addict.

00:31:50.515 --> 00:31:56.215
I never dated well, like I just felt like, you know, it was something that was so important to me.

00:31:56.215 --> 00:32:17.458
I was adopted, like like there were just all of these things that that really had me like I really wanted a relationship and I wanted to get married and all of that, and I sucked at it, and so I had to do a lot of deep, deep inner work in order to become the person to like meet my husband.

00:32:17.458 --> 00:32:27.171
And so, basically, I turned that into a program and you know, that's 10 years ago, yeah, so I um he.

00:32:27.171 --> 00:32:31.339
He said to me you know, why don't you turn this into a digital course?

00:32:31.339 --> 00:32:36.174
And I was like no, I was like this, I'm like this is transformative.

00:32:36.174 --> 00:32:38.362
I'm like you can't do this online what are?

00:32:38.382 --> 00:32:41.010
you talking about yeah and he was like try it.

00:32:41.010 --> 00:33:09.044
And I had one month of money left, so I just went for it and I built this course, which is now I rebranded it last year called labyrinth of love, and it's like you know, just really like understanding your own patterns, like who you are in relationship, and I started that and I think the first year I launched it like nine times and so I'm coaching people and I had gone through coaching certification.

00:33:09.044 --> 00:33:15.461
So during that time that I was like doing my startup, I was in this program.

00:33:15.461 --> 00:33:29.250
That was really like for me, but it was also a certification program and so finally I just did my hours, but I did them all for free, like I was just like I'm not really a coach, I'm a tech CEO but, I'll do, I'll do this practice and I'll I'll, I'll do this for free.

00:33:29.632 --> 00:33:36.097
So I did like 300 hours for free or something, and um, so then I started we're doing these.

00:33:36.097 --> 00:33:42.124
And then, you know, everybody was like, okay, perry, we're good on love, let's talk about business.

00:33:42.124 --> 00:33:44.547
And I was like, okay, great, let's talk about business, I'll teach you business.

00:33:44.547 --> 00:34:02.153
And then it went from that and then things started to like really open into other things, right, like, then the magic really started to kind of turn on and in 2020, I was like, was like, okay, we have to add pussy?

00:34:02.153 --> 00:34:02.493
Yeah, absolutely.

00:34:02.513 --> 00:34:17.898
But I, instead of a partnered practice, which is what I came from, I created a solo practice for women, which I think is really important because I know that, like, there are a lot of women that couldn't have shown up to the class that I went to.

00:34:17.898 --> 00:34:51.739
I, I won't get into all of it, but like I and I and and in my experience now having worked with this for you know, I'm going into five years it's, it's, uh, it, there there is a huge, there is a huge chasm for so many women between, like them and their pussy, yeah, and so, you know, walking into a class to do a partnered practice is actually too much for a lot of people, right?

00:34:51.739 --> 00:35:02.603
And we were also in the middle of the pandemic and it was all like online, and so what I started was this you know, solo stroking practice to a guided meditation, right?

00:35:02.603 --> 00:35:11.849
So there's, there is something about it where it's not like, um, the principles of it are not like about, it's not about getting off.

00:35:11.929 --> 00:35:12.030
Right.

00:35:12.110 --> 00:35:14.358
It's not about climactic orgasm, right.

00:35:14.358 --> 00:35:20.730
It's about like being with the connection to the sensation in your body.

00:35:20.730 --> 00:35:40.565
And I will tell you something women who think they are good at sex come to my practice and they are humbled because there are channels that we learn how to be good at that are not necessarily like the deepest, truest thing, right.

00:35:40.565 --> 00:35:58.164
And so what I have learned in doing this over the years is that what your relationship is with your pussy and what's happening in your pussy, the energy, and how that energy relates to the rest of your body, is literally a map of your life.

00:35:58.164 --> 00:36:01.577
Like I can.

00:36:01.577 --> 00:36:02.481
I can literally.

00:36:02.481 --> 00:36:07.940
If you tell me what it's like, what your puss, what your relationship with your pussy is like, I will tell you about the patterns that are in your life.

00:36:09.150 --> 00:36:12.240
It's like yeah, it's a little bit like pussy pussy fortune telling.

00:36:12.240 --> 00:36:15.996
Oh my God, I'm so happy right now.

00:36:15.996 --> 00:36:22.791
But the best part of that is is that you know cause sometimes people come to me and they're like I have this thing, that it keeps happening and I don't know why.

00:36:22.791 --> 00:36:26.771
And you know people try and solve problems like up here at story level and whatever.

00:36:26.771 --> 00:36:32.163
And I'm like let's just get down to the energetic root of what is happening.

00:36:32.302 --> 00:36:34.012
And you know what's interesting is homeopathy.

00:36:34.072 --> 00:36:35.556
Does this too right?

00:36:35.556 --> 00:36:37.400
So if you know anything about homeopathy, people think it's.

00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.643
My husband's always like oh, what are you giving me?

00:36:39.643 --> 00:36:42.038
You're giving me nothing nothing, with nothing.

00:36:42.117 --> 00:36:43.795
Okay, great, that's going to do so much.

00:36:43.795 --> 00:37:01.545
But I love homeopathy because I'm very energetically sensitive and so when you address something like at a root energetic right, you begin to see the changes in your life without having to like.

00:37:01.545 --> 00:37:03.532
It just happens.

00:37:03.532 --> 00:37:09.403
And it's not this behavior modification and that's what I see happen.

00:37:09.483 --> 00:37:13.500
So much is that people use their life force to be like.

00:37:13.500 --> 00:37:14.422
I don't want to be like that.

00:37:14.422 --> 00:37:25.358
So I want to be like that, so I'm going to copy that, I'm going to mimic, that, I'm going to emulate, that, I'm going to work really hard and put all this discipline in to be this idea of this person.

00:37:25.358 --> 00:37:34.210
And then people hope that their neurological grooves that they create and the habits that they create are going to make that true.

00:37:34.210 --> 00:37:36.394
Still not true.

00:37:36.394 --> 00:37:49.014
So, you know, and those people, by the way, the ones that use a lot of discipline like and uh, really like hardcore gripping, they're the ones that have the most catastrophic failures.

00:37:49.014 --> 00:37:49.414
Right?

00:37:49.414 --> 00:38:01.378
Because what happens is is that, you know, I look at it as like building sandcastles while the tide is out, and it's like you can do that all day long and the truth is coming home to roost.

00:38:02.391 --> 00:38:22.101
And so, for me, I'm actually in this strange cocoon phase again because we had toxic mold in our house two years ago and it really knocked me out and my physically like I am, you know, like not where I was and all of this and I gained all this weight and you know, and I can't move it yet.

00:38:22.590 --> 00:38:23.552
And the thing is I'm not.

00:38:23.552 --> 00:38:35.534
A lot of people would be like, well, you need to do X, y and Z, and I'm like, actually, no, I, this is trying to take me somewhere, it's trying to take me down further, it's trying to take me internal.

00:38:35.534 --> 00:38:39.583
It's trying to let me open to like something else.

00:38:39.583 --> 00:38:49.875
And so when you learn, like how to work the feminine map, you, you don't use grit to like climb out of the hole.

00:38:49.875 --> 00:39:06.275
No, you die in the hole, not literally, but like you die in the hole and you let yourself compost, yeah, and then in that composting process you soften and you open and then you know you come to someone like me to teach you how to live in that land.

00:39:06.275 --> 00:39:09.081
Right, like you know it's, it's a different world.

00:39:09.242 --> 00:39:17.233
Yeah, but I personally I was saying to my husband yesterday I was like last two years have been so fucking hard, yeah, but I'm actually happier than I've ever been.

00:39:17.233 --> 00:39:17.599
Yes, like I'm happy and I'm unhappy at the same time.

00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:23.353
To my husband yesterday, I was like last two years have been so fucking hard, yeah, but I'm actually happier than I've ever been yes, like I'm happy and I'm unhappy at the same time, like does that make sense?

00:39:23.353 --> 00:39:24.114
It makes perfect sense.

00:39:24.496 --> 00:39:54.880
It makes perfect sense because I find that, like the things that I have to go through and the same thing like I love how you described that as far as just really softening into that and understanding that, that's an important part of the process, instead of just gritting yeah, like trying to grit out of something Totally Um, because the universe is putting you exactly where you need to be, whatever it took to get you to that point, and so I I understand exactly what you're talking about, and there's periods of time for myself also where I'm going through things where I'm like what the fuck is this supposed to be teaching me, or what you know, because it's hard shit.

00:39:54.980 --> 00:39:55.501
It is hard.

00:39:55.501 --> 00:40:00.775
It is hard and so, you know, when I work with people, I am always trying to help them.

00:40:00.775 --> 00:40:22.050
Um, you know, the way I relate to the world, very much is like kind of like a holograph, like a game, and so I'm always looking for the symbolism and so, like some of the health stuff I've had to go through, I'm like okay, like this is actually the, the purging of like a lifetime of that and it's actually clearing right.

00:40:22.050 --> 00:40:22.311
So it's.

00:40:22.311 --> 00:40:46.110
It's not like I'm actually getting, it's like I have to get worse to get better, Right, and there were things you know, in the mold, like one of the things that I did to really get through the mold layer of it other than go through my house was, um, I had to really look at like the representation of, like the dark, toxic, feminine and like all like relationships with women or my mom or like things like that.

00:40:46.192 --> 00:40:55.260
That that felt toxic and and and in myself, right, and it was like I I actually took a whole week and I gave myself a solo retreat.

00:40:55.300 --> 00:40:58.791
I said to my husband I was like I have to do this or I'm not going to husband, I was like I have to do this or I'm not going to heal.

00:40:59.132 --> 00:41:07.226
I was like I I this isn't just medical Like I have to work the energetics of this, and that's when that started to lift Right.

00:41:07.226 --> 00:41:18.079
And then there are other layers that I'm working on now and what's interesting is that I didn't have the skills to be this patient before this happened, because I was actually really blessed with good health.

00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:29.753
And I didn't have the skills to be this patient before this happened because I was actually really blessed with good health and I didn't have a lot of challenges and I never broke a bone and like you know what I mean Like I was very blessed and I also believe that the universe only gives you what you can handle.

00:41:29.753 --> 00:41:45.936
So I've you know I was really lucky with this to not be as sick as many other people do, and I believe that's because I, of the work I do and that fact that I'm like in the field and in of service, they kind of like gave me a taste and is like can you hear the medicine here?

00:41:45.936 --> 00:41:49.123
Like do you, do you need to be incapacitated?

00:41:49.123 --> 00:41:49.891
I was like no.

00:41:50.311 --> 00:41:52.355
I was like no, I'm answering the door.

00:41:52.355 --> 00:41:52.936
Please stop.

00:41:52.936 --> 00:41:54.137
I got it.

00:41:54.137 --> 00:41:55.278
I'm like I'm listening.

00:41:55.278 --> 00:41:57.342
Yeah, okay, yeah, don't, don't give me any more.

00:41:57.342 --> 00:42:09.045
Yeah, I'm here, I'm doing it, I'm doing the work, but taking the mold out of my house was one of the most insane teachers that I've ever had.

00:42:09.045 --> 00:42:11.157
It was intricate as fuck.

00:42:11.730 --> 00:42:12.311
And it was.

00:42:12.572 --> 00:42:20.744
I had to use my intuition throughout the whole process and I just I kept, like you know, being like guys I think we need, cause you couldn't find I had just redone my house.

00:42:20.744 --> 00:42:24.806
I'm just going to tell you, redid my house moved in, got sick immediately.

00:42:24.806 --> 00:42:25.967
I was like what is going on?

00:42:25.967 --> 00:42:29.733
I thought it was me, but then my daughter had a cough and I was like okay, it's the house.

00:42:29.733 --> 00:42:32.614
My doctor was like I don't think it's mold.

00:42:32.614 --> 00:42:34.896
And then it was mold.

00:42:34.896 --> 00:42:37.739
But then it was like where is the mold?

00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:39.742
I can't see any mold I can't smell.

00:42:41.923 --> 00:42:45.527
So I literally had to use, like my energetic intuition.

00:42:45.527 --> 00:43:09.219
Obviously, we brought in a tester, but like him and our remediator were like you are, like no one we've ever worked with I found every hidden piece of mold in the house through my intuition, through my senses, through, just like I think it's here, and they would open up a wall and lo and behold I mean it was.

00:43:09.219 --> 00:43:10.661
It was horrific.

00:43:10.661 --> 00:43:11.503
It was in my house.

00:43:11.503 --> 00:43:15.338
Yeah, every single bathroom had to be ripped out.

00:43:15.338 --> 00:43:19.541
There was like a mat of black mold inside in the wall.

00:43:19.541 --> 00:43:24.661
I mean, like you would not believe what was in this house.

00:43:24.661 --> 00:43:27.699
And then there were like other crazy things after that.

00:43:27.699 --> 00:43:30.800
Like they didn't seal a toilet properly.

00:43:30.909 --> 00:43:42.775
So my house was testing high for endotoxins and like there was all of this stuff and I was like, but it was layer by layer, piece by piece, intuition by intuition.

00:43:42.775 --> 00:43:46.742
It was not linear, it was not an easy fix.

00:43:46.742 --> 00:44:04.340
It was like something that required like a lot of staying with it and I was like this is exactly the training that I needed, yeah, to be able to be with my body, because all the stuff that it kicked off, sure, not linear, right?

00:44:04.340 --> 00:44:05.143
Not.

00:44:05.143 --> 00:44:06.715
No one has a cure.

00:44:06.715 --> 00:44:08.416
There's no fix.

00:44:08.416 --> 00:44:15.277
Every single person has to do it differently, like, and so no doctor has the answer.

00:44:15.277 --> 00:44:25.695
Like I'm working with four different doctors, I basically hear each one of them and then'm like, okay, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm gonna take all of that in and I'm like I agree with you, I don't agree with you.

00:44:25.695 --> 00:44:27.844
That feels right, let me try this.

00:44:27.923 --> 00:44:28.967
Yeah you know, exactly.

00:44:29.710 --> 00:44:42.014
Yeah, but it was like this radical responsibility for leveraging experts, but also following my own intuition, and like working piece by piece and not expecting some magic fucking pill.

00:44:42.014 --> 00:44:46.702
Yeah, yeah, I mean, this has been like shamanic for me.

00:44:46.702 --> 00:44:48.271
Yeah, and this was just two years ago.

00:44:48.934 --> 00:44:51.259
Yeah, this happened well.

00:44:51.278 --> 00:45:01.043
what's interesting is so, ultimately, they found that I had some other lime related stuff which I wouldn't have found if I didn't have the mold.

00:45:01.043 --> 00:45:11.023
I have like one of the co-infections, and I had those symptoms for years and no one knew what it was.

00:45:11.023 --> 00:45:16.485
So I just you know, the thing about me doing this work too, is like I have a lot of.

00:45:16.485 --> 00:45:19.271
I can feel literally everything in my body.

00:45:19.271 --> 00:45:30.411
I am so in this body, my senses, sensations, like I can feel everything, and so a lot of times I'm like I don't know, is that energetic, is it emotional, is it spiritual, is it physical?

00:45:30.411 --> 00:45:33.235
I'm like sometimes I can't actually tell.

00:45:33.896 --> 00:45:38.411
And there's a lot of mystery too, in the sense that a lot of times I can't pin it down.

00:45:38.411 --> 00:45:44.670
Yeah, I just, I just can't pin it down, and so it's funny because it doesn't actually let me know.

00:45:44.670 --> 00:45:51.032
It's absolutely this, sure, but I, so I probably had these symptoms that I was just functioning with.

00:45:51.032 --> 00:46:05.211
But this this is why I say it's like a healing crisis, because it all came to a head and it unveiled it for me and it was like here you go, yeah, this is what you need to address, yeah, and so now I at least know where I am on the map right.

00:46:05.211 --> 00:46:07.355
But yeah, it happened.

00:46:07.434 --> 00:46:21.836
we moved into that house in july of 2022 and last year we moved 30 times with uh five you you know she was five I had a five-year-old, two dogs running a company.

00:46:21.836 --> 00:46:26.896
Not well, right Right, like mold messes with your brain.

00:46:26.896 --> 00:46:32.797
Yeah and yeah, we moved 30 times.

00:46:32.797 --> 00:46:42.893
It's a big deal, wild Right, outrageous, but somehow I still had my biggest year in my business.

00:46:42.934 --> 00:46:53.934
Yeah Well, and also like, if your eyes are open and you're going down the path that you're supposed to be and willing to lean in and do the work and you know all of the things, it just makes you a better person for whatever it is that you're supposed to be doing.

00:46:54.054 --> 00:46:55.635
Totally Well and that's just it.

00:46:55.635 --> 00:46:55.956
It's like.

00:46:55.956 --> 00:47:07.911
It's like we're being um, we, we are, we are being trained in a particular skillset that comes from whatever challenge that we're doing.

00:47:07.911 --> 00:47:48.393
And I will also say that like it gave me a whole other level of compassion, because I just had never experienced anything like that physically humbling before and it just it took me to like another level of like softness and heart opening and like compassion and like approval, and not only approval for like where I am, but like deeper approval for where everyone else is, and then I'm able to teach that and approval is a very big, important um aspect of spirituality yeah, really, why do you think so?

00:47:48.733 --> 00:47:57.137
so when you do the, the, the pussy stroking classes, are they individual, like individual classes, group classes online.

00:47:57.157 --> 00:48:04.000
So basically, like the format is usually like that I will do an online class, okay.

00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:04.581
We.

00:48:04.581 --> 00:48:13.213
I do have some events that I do in person, okay, but those people have been doing it for a while, so they're like prepared for that level of energy.

00:48:13.213 --> 00:48:18.844
Sure, the, the, the online.

00:48:18.844 --> 00:48:24.338
I teach a little bit and then I take people through a practice and they usually just kind of share afterwards, whatever.

00:48:24.338 --> 00:48:26.373
But then I have a library, yeah Right.

00:48:26.373 --> 00:48:37.063
So people are practicing all the time and they go through the library of the practices and then I teach other programs too, but the practice is kind of at the core, yeah, of all the different topics that I teach.

00:48:37.083 --> 00:48:43.320
Okay what is the like, what is your ideal client or what like?

00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:44.563
How does someone come to you?

00:48:44.563 --> 00:48:52.177
Is it someone who's like you know I always think about like religious trauma, right, because that's very much like you're not supposed to masturbate like that.

00:48:52.177 --> 00:48:55.391
You're uh going to hell if you do all of that shit.

00:48:55.391 --> 00:48:59.273
So that feels to me like someone who really could use your help.

00:48:59.273 --> 00:49:02.661
But, like what is your ideal client or how do they come to you?

00:49:03.110 --> 00:49:28.181
Well, so I kind of take this spiritual perspective of like you know, I don't have like a traditional marketing in the sense of like I don't niche, because I believe in frequency and resonance, so like meaning I'm like a tuning fork, like I have a particular resonance and that I trust that frequency to call the people that are meant to have this turned on inside of them.

00:49:28.181 --> 00:49:30.496
Yes, Because that's how we, that's how we wake each other up.

00:49:30.536 --> 00:49:30.637
Yeah.

00:49:30.677 --> 00:49:34.902
Right, it's like a, it's like a, it's like a network of, of frequency.

00:49:34.902 --> 00:49:46.436
Yeah, and so I um, you know, for people, for people who come to me, they usually feel something.

00:49:46.436 --> 00:49:51.110
So they see me, they're like, oh my God, I, I either love her or hate her.

00:49:51.110 --> 00:50:09.532
It's usually not neutral, right, I'm the same way so there's there's people who like look, there are people who blocked me for two years and then, like, came back and and was like, actually I want to work with her and I want to dive in, yeah and I'm not as um, this, this mold thing has actually softened me so much I'm not.

00:50:09.612 --> 00:50:17.481
I'm not as difficult like I used to be, much more spiky, yeah, you know, and people really like that, but that's kind of gone now.

00:50:17.481 --> 00:50:20.932
Yeah and um, but anyway, about the religious trauma.

00:50:20.932 --> 00:50:31.422
So I I recently previously, I would say people who were more in the the deeper feminine spirituality journey already were the people who came to me.

00:50:31.422 --> 00:50:43.699
Okay, this year I created a framework called the pussy map, which was like a whole onboarding to be able to do my practice sex bomb, and the reason is that I created it.

00:50:43.699 --> 00:50:45.592
We're actually running it for the first time right now.

00:50:45.592 --> 00:50:48.057
The reason why I created the pussy map is just for this.

00:50:48.057 --> 00:50:52.954
A woman who had religious trauma of like never touching her pussy.

00:50:52.954 --> 00:50:57.682
She's not necessarily going to be ready to just jump into a practice.

00:50:57.682 --> 00:50:59.833
There's like a whole thing.

00:50:59.833 --> 00:51:00.614
Yeah Right.

00:51:01.056 --> 00:51:21.054
So what I did was I created a framework that I'm also going to be certifying people in to be able to work with people in order to ramp up to doing the practice and all of the philosophy about the practice, and then how to like work with the practice in your life, right, right.

00:51:21.054 --> 00:51:33.295
So so those people, the way that I say to, to to people is always like, if I resonate with you, like if, if, if what I I'm sharing resonates, then dive in.

00:51:33.295 --> 00:51:59.545
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, cause there are many different, you know, sex bombs, kind of at the center, and then I have all these spokes, right, like, so I teach about relationships, I teach about abundance, I teach about energy, and then I teach the different topics as they relate, and so I really teach people how to work with energy and understand the laws of energy and then how to, how to live with that knowledge.

00:51:59.545 --> 00:52:02.789
Okay, so, what is the sex bomb?

00:52:02.789 --> 00:52:08.023
That's the, that's the, that's the meditation, okay, yeah, so it's pronounced sex bomb, but I spelled it.

00:52:08.023 --> 00:52:10.315
Access sxbm, got it.

00:52:10.436 --> 00:52:18.318
Got it because the internet is a fucker and I had to be strategic I love it okay so like it's not getting flagged by Instagram.

00:52:18.358 --> 00:52:21.940
Okay, so the sex bomb is the actual orgasmic meditation.

00:52:22.489 --> 00:52:24.916
Orgasmic meditation is a partnered practice separate.

00:52:25.036 --> 00:52:25.197
Okay.

00:52:25.217 --> 00:52:25.719
Separate thing.

00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.157
This is a sex bomb, is a solo guided meditation.

00:52:30.157 --> 00:52:31.681
Got it, okay, okay.

00:52:32.762 --> 00:52:35.257
Okay, so it's like I'm from that lineage.

00:52:36.172 --> 00:52:38.460
I'm from that lineage of orgasmic meditation.

00:52:38.460 --> 00:52:41.519
Yeah, but this is a totally different practice.

00:52:42.121 --> 00:52:46.603
Prior to you getting involved in San Francisco and the stuff that you said that you got involved in, what?

00:52:46.603 --> 00:52:52.001
How would you describe your relationship with your pussy If you're willing to share that?

00:52:52.971 --> 00:53:10.320
Like I always had a relationship with my pussy, okay, and so you know it's funny because I did a reel recently and it was like five ways to know that you're like an ancient priestess and like women who have always had a relationship with their pussy, like a lot of sex, like just sex, was always easy for me.

00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:20.844
You know, like people have, you know, really powerful experiences with you, if you, you know, you kind of have these priestess-y codes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:53:20.844 --> 00:53:23.759
So sexuality was really easy for me.

00:53:23.759 --> 00:53:27.119
But what the?

00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:31.217
When I started my, you know, orgasmic meditation practice?

00:53:31.217 --> 00:53:51.896
The thing is that you change the way you relate to your pussy, right, so it's not an extractive relationship of like I just want to get off, yeah, right, it becomes more of a like cultivating, nurturing and nurturing the energy, not just like blowing the energy.

00:53:51.896 --> 00:53:54.978
Yeah, yeah, yeah, not just like blowing the energy.

00:53:55.139 --> 00:54:06.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it feels very, you know, power of now type situation right, totally, where you're very present and very all of the things, but with your pussy, yeah.

00:54:07.081 --> 00:54:08.539
Yeah, what a fucking treat.

00:54:08.539 --> 00:54:25.039
Yeah, and I'll tell you, it really blows people's minds because the power of it, the radical transformation that people experience just from having this relationship with their pussy, yeah, it changes everything, like, really.

00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:28.327
Like it talk about let's get naked.

00:54:28.327 --> 00:54:36.423
Yeah, it really strips things that are not true, things that people are holding on to, things that were stuck and couldn't move.

00:54:36.423 --> 00:54:53.317
Like it just, it really just absolutely activates and it and it helps women stay in their bodies, as opposed to their mind yes yes, nothing good comes from this, that's that's, that's totally true

00:54:53.496 --> 00:54:54.860
I believe that a thousand percent.

00:54:54.860 --> 00:54:59.121
It's like how do we, how do we work on getting out of our minds Right?

00:54:59.121 --> 00:55:03.016
I work with that all the time, not necessarily with the pussy, but with other things in life.

00:55:03.016 --> 00:55:05.581
Of just the mind is a is a fucker?

00:55:05.581 --> 00:55:06.931
Yeah, right, and it really.

00:55:06.931 --> 00:55:07.735
And it runs rampant.

00:55:08.150 --> 00:55:12.893
And so like a computer program, and so if your mind wasn't programmed, well, you know it's a problem.

00:55:12.893 --> 00:55:13.554
Yeah Right.

00:55:13.614 --> 00:55:15.257
And so you have to kind of reclaim it.

00:55:15.257 --> 00:55:16.518
Michael Singer talks about that.

00:55:16.518 --> 00:55:20.023
Yeah, it's like a, it's like a naughty roommate that won't shut up.

00:55:20.023 --> 00:55:21.706
Yeah, and so for.

00:55:21.846 --> 00:55:27.362
For for me, like the, I also believe that, you know, masculine spirituality is very transcendent.

00:55:27.362 --> 00:55:30.998
It's very like up and above the mind, you know, you.

00:55:30.998 --> 00:55:33.452
You even hear Michael Singer talk about his meditations.

00:55:33.452 --> 00:56:04.340
He's like hovering outside of his body, witnessing and watching, and it's great to be an observer, it's great to have the observer consciousness, so that you know you are not your mind, you are, no, you're not your behavior, you know you're not your experience, but I believe and this is feminine spiritualities you are here to bring your soul deeply into your body, like where your consciousness is driving this vehicle, this vessel, and in order to do that, you also need to clear out the vessel.

00:56:04.340 --> 00:56:05.822
Yeah, you have to make room for it, right?

00:56:05.822 --> 00:56:10.217
Yeah, and so that's a big part of what this practice does.

00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:36.577
So, but you know, going back to this question, that you asked me about my own journey with pussy, one of the things that blew my mind and why I just created the pussy map, which is the framework to teach it, yeah, was because I had just like been offering classes and, like I know having people come and, like you know, to talk for 15 minutes and then like, hey, let's, let's do the practice.

00:56:36.577 --> 00:56:44.090
Sure, I was in my Hawaii retreat last year and three of the women that were there were like, yeah, perry, I never touched my pussy until I did sex bomb.

00:56:44.090 --> 00:56:47.329
And I was like, what, like?

00:56:47.329 --> 00:56:48.052
What do you like?

00:56:48.052 --> 00:56:52.481
Meaning I always had a good relationship with my pussy.

00:56:52.481 --> 00:56:54.436
Yeah, that never occurred to me.

00:56:54.596 --> 00:57:07.052
Right that, that, that there's a lot of women out there that are like that right, and so what I realized was like okay, I need to really create a a ramp I think that's smart right.

00:57:07.052 --> 00:57:12.452
So that, and and also a certification, because I think that some of this needs to be done one-to-one.

00:57:12.592 --> 00:57:34.858
Yeah, like I have a lot of women who work with cause I teach, I teach, teachers as well and, um, I have a lot of women who work with people and they're like I need, I need to be able to do this with them because they need this Right, if anyone has ever gone to therapy, you know like people are just talking, you know you could.

00:57:34.858 --> 00:57:37.510
You could spend 10 years like I did, just fucking talking and nothing changing.

00:57:37.510 --> 00:57:38.030
Yeah, because all it is is your ego is just are just talking you know you could.

00:57:37.969 --> 00:57:39.373
You could spend 10 years like I did, just fucking, yeah, talking and nothing changing.

00:57:39.393 --> 00:57:47.501
Therapy, treadmill, yeah because all it is is your ego is just like blah, blah, blah blah, blah, blah, blah that doesn't create transformation, it's in the body, agreed.

00:57:47.961 --> 00:57:49.753
So you know, it's exciting.

00:57:49.753 --> 00:57:50.554
I feel like.

00:57:50.554 --> 00:57:57.099
I feel like this is emerging to another level now and and hopefully, like we can bring this to more women in the world.

00:57:57.099 --> 00:57:57.313
I really believe in it, I, I.

00:57:57.313 --> 00:58:01.019
And this is emerging to another level now and and hopefully, like we can bring this to more women in the world, I really believe in it, I, I.

00:58:01.019 --> 00:58:06.735
And this is another thing Like I never wanted to teach pussy, right, I was like I wanted to be a tech.

00:58:06.755 --> 00:58:21.179
CEO Right and like all of a sudden, I'm on a podcast and we're talking about my pussy and, like you, know, and I and I'm like like, wow, this is, this is really outside of my preferences, but I've had to actually step into it because it's really of service.

00:58:21.179 --> 00:58:33.173
I agreed and my soul is like, look, I kicked your ass for how many years and you know, you have all these skills and you can go out there and talk about this stuff and not worry about it and what people think of you, or you know.

00:58:33.173 --> 00:58:47.086
And I just know that whatever discomfort I might have is worth it, because I see the results in the lives of the women that work with me.

00:58:47.150 --> 00:58:53.670
I agree with you a thousand percent and I think it takes a real badass to be willing to talk about all of the things I really do.

00:58:53.670 --> 00:59:04.800
You know, I think that that's people that come and sit on the couch here and have the conversations and talk about the hard things and and the shit that you know they've gone through and what makes them who they are and things that they bring.

00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:09.460
I mean, you are definitely of service in bringing this and that is where the impact is.

00:59:09.561 --> 00:59:21.829
And so I thank you for having me too, because you know it's having opportunities to have conversations like this that, that you know, a woman may hear this and say like, wow, like, and that could change her whole life.

00:59:21.909 --> 00:59:29.239
Absolutely, absolutely, and she can figure out more, and you know how to dive into all of that so well.

00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:31.775
Thank you so much for coming and spending time with me today.

00:59:31.775 --> 00:59:32.818
I really appreciate it.

00:59:32.838 --> 00:59:33.239
Thank you.

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